{"id":72,"date":"2008-09-05T05:00:29","date_gmt":"2008-09-05T11:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.consider.org\/blog\/?p=72"},"modified":"2008-09-05T05:00:29","modified_gmt":"2008-09-05T11:00:29","slug":"hitchens-god-is-not-great-xiii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/hitchens-god-is-not-great-xiii\/","title":{"rendered":"Hitchens &#8211; God is not Great XIII"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span><span style=\"font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/running.biblepacesetter.org\/?p=388\" target=\"_blank\">Listen to the MP3<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2 class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span><span style=\"font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span><span style=\"font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/running.biblepacesetter.org\/?p=386\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Continuing my extended review of Christopher Hitchens\u2019, \u201c<\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/0446579807\/considerchristia\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #cc3300;\">God Is Not Great<\/span><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">,<\/span><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\">\u201d I come to Chapter Five where Hitchens asserts that the Metaphysical claims of Religion are False.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He begins the chapter with one of his typically broad attacks, that a Faith that can stand up to reason, \u201cis now plainly impossible.\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In very limited way there is some truth in Hitchens\u2019 claim. Christianity, as a rational system of thought, does have some problems; there are questions for which we do not have completely satisfactory answers. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Now while the atheist may pounce on this as evidence that Christianity can\u2019t stand up to reason, it is in reality little more than an admission that Christians do not have all the answers, which is hardly surprising, for nobody has all the answers.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>It is just a fact that all major systems of thought have some problems for which they do not have the answer. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">This is why the atheist\u2019s frequent demands for proof are at their core irrational. There are many problems with the atheist\u2019s demands for proofs, but one is that when comparing major systems of thought to demand proof is absurd for nobody has it. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Atheists attempt to avoid this little problem by declaring that they are the default view, and as such don\u2019t need to provide proof, but this is at best a little self-serving. After all a Christian could just as easily declare that Christianity was the default view, and demand that atheist prove their claims.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">A much more rational approach is to realize that demands for proof are out of place when contrasting world views. Instead of who can prove what, a much better approach is to compare the evidenced pro and con. Instead of who can prove their system, which system of thought has the best explanation.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>When this is done Christianity comes off quite well, and in fact I believe, though this is hardly surprising, does the best. This may perhaps be why atheists I have talked to so dogmatically insist on proof. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">From there Hitchens begins to savage and ridicule believers in the past in his typical fashion which seems founded more in hatred that in reason.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The best that can be said of it is that it is distorted slanting, that is, when it is not straying into the irrational fallacy of ad hominem attack.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>It may please the atheist choir, but argues against Hitchens for those seeking a serious rational discussion. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">But Hitchens does eventually finish his rant and come to a coherent point, which in this case is \u201cOne must state it plainly. Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody \u2026 had the smallest idea what was going on.\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>From which he concludes \u201cAll attempts to reconcile faith with science and reason are consigned to failure and ridicule.\u201d (pg 64-5)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Well in terms of a scientific understanding of the physical laws of the universe, Hitchens premise is correct. And for those religions with a large and significant focus on the problems of nature, the advancement of science is a significant problem and reconciliation is impossible.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">However neither Judaism nor Christianity are focused on these natural problems but on the human condition, how it is broken and particularly in the case of Christianity, how it can be fixed. These are spiritual issues about which science is as silent as the Bible is on quantum mechanics.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Some atheists claim that the behavioral sciences have shown that religion is not needed to explain human behavior, but such arguments are based more in the philosophical\/religious view call scientism, and on writing off all problems as either not important, or with the atheistic catch all, we figure it out some day. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">For example, naturalistic science cannot even explain the phenomena of consciousness, or explain how we have free will and some have written these off as illusions. But real problems remain. For example, why are atheists trying to encourage people to abandon their belief in God, if people don\u2019t even have a choice in the matter? <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">And while Hitchens can point to the absurd beliefs held by Christians in the past, did these beliefs come from Christianity, or from accepting what was the science of their day? Then again, Christians can point to the absurdities of secular belief today, such as the belief that there is no real difference between men and women which is behind much of current secular thought.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">One of the problems with science is that it frequently confuses ignorance of a subject with a lack of evidence.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>For example, science saw no reason for biblical view of sex, therefore it must be false and based on superstition, something Hitchens frequently claims.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>This despite all the visible problems of unwanted pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, broken homes and the other problems that are conveniently just ignored.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>But now recent studies on the brain are showing the casual sex with multiple partners does have detrimental impact on brain development. (See <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/0802450601\/considerchristia\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Hooked: New Science on How Casual Sex is Affecting Our Children<\/span><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Science may have the best answer for how an apple falls when dropped, but when it comes to issue of good and evil or how we should live our lives, Christianity still have the best answers. Perhaps this is why in studies, religious people are happier. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"bkNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-indent: 0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">This is Elgin Hushbeck, asking you to <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.consider.org\/\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Consider Christianity<\/span><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">: <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.consider.org\/blog\/?p=56\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #cc3300;\">a Faith Based on Fact<\/span><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Listen to the MP3 Continuing my extended review of Christopher Hitchens\u2019, \u201cGod Is Not Great,\u201d I come to Chapter Five where Hitchens asserts that the Metaphysical claims of Religion are False.\u00a0 He begins the chapter with one of his typically broad attacks, that a Faith that can stand up to reason, \u201cis now plainly impossible.\u201d\u00a0 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[3,6,14],"tags":[1074,123,525],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=72"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=72"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=72"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/consider.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=72"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}